Liberty International, Inc / Wow Mobile Suspends Operations

by louabbott on July 12, 2010

Another troubled telecom MLM, Liberty International, bites the dust!

Opened in 2008 by Randy Jeffers, this is yet  another example of an attempt to take a technology product with close to zero markup and turn it in to a profitable multilevel marketing business.

Here’s what’s posted at the company site as of a couple of days ago . . .

Due to the multiple issues we experienced with T-Mobile, our Tier 1 Cellular provider, Liberty International, Inc has been forced to suspend all operations and is not accepting any new orders or signups. Anyone that has an ongoing issue with respect to a product order or refund request, please contact Liberty International Refund Department at PO Box 438, Woodburn, OR 97071. Refunds are continuing to be processed in the order that they are received.

All Liberty International Independent Representatives who wish to conduct business with Liberty Freedom Network should go to www.libertyfreedomnetwork.com

Of course, if you are a glutton for punishment, you can join their new venture.  They don’t even put the names of the founders on that new site.

My friends, I have been teaching for years – it just does not pay to try to jump on these new start ups. By far the majority of the time, the companies will fail.  It is particularly so when they fail to measure to a majority of our 12 Critical Success Factors.

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Chris January 30, 2013 at 10:08 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

I have been trying to get my money (~$900.00) back for two years. At first I received email confirmations and then the phones went dead. I sent registered letters and although the letters were delivered, I never received any money or information from the refund department.

Any thoughts??

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Chad October 8, 2010 at 12:13 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

I was just recently charged 29.95 on Oct 5, 2010 from Liberty International without my authorization… I’ve tried everything I could to contact them but was unsuccessful. What the heck is going on!? I’ve filed a dispute with my bank against that charge. 🙁

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ellie musgrave October 18, 2010 at 4:34 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

Chad I’m trying to get my charge off also. Have you had any luck.

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Tracie August 25, 2010 at 9:59 am Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

I was wondering if you had any updated information on Liberty Freedom Network. I know that they now have a few different cellular platforms to choose from and of course the Global Freedom Phone VOIP is still there. I would like to know if there will be any current reviews on them? Thanks for the info.

Tracie

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Alan Eames July 13, 2010 at 11:31 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

Hi Lou,

Great post on why not to go with start-ups, then Peter jumped in and carried it on home. Two great posts for the price of one.

Kieandrae, you’re absolutely right. You might hit the 1 out of 10 that makes it and goes on to great things. But the odds are stacked against you. You might pick the next “Microsoft” or you might pick the next “TVI Express.” Why stack the odds against yourself?

All the best,

Alan

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Corrisa July 13, 2010 at 9:38 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

I agree on the latter part of what Kieandrae had to say about studying both the industry and the company.

Some industries just don’t do well with the mlm business model. In some cases it’s because there’s just not enough of a profit margin to pay out in this sort of compensation.

Not sure if this was the case in this particular instance, but I remember reading some where that there’s not a whole lot of profit in the telecom industry from an mlm standpoint.

This is why some companies that have survived in this industry have “creative” ways to pay out its distributors.

Like someone posted earlier, you don’t want to put all your “eggs” in one basket anyway.

Corrisa

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Kieandrae Blanks July 13, 2010 at 1:40 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

This is bad for the industry as a whole. I hear everyone on this blog talking about the risk of a start-up company. Even though it is risky, you have to think about all the good companies that are out there that are well stable. They had to start somewhere, they didn’t start out of the gate on top. I’m sure the good companies that are out there had problems in the beginning. I am not defending this company, I’m just wanted to state that you can’t think every start-up company is bad because every company no matter if is mlm or not has to start somewhere. You just have to do you homework and make your own judgement on the company you are looking at.

I’ve seen companies that been out 10 years and still fell through the floor. So it doesn’t matter, that’s why you should study the industry and the company.

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Katrina Rooker July 13, 2010 at 12:15 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

Before everyone jumps in with their “I told you so” you need to know the facts.

Don’t count this company out yet.

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Billy Bryson July 13, 2010 at 10:02 am Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

Thanks for reporting. One of the many dangers with a start up mlm. Glad I am with one who has been in the business for many years. Always check the leaders and the financials before joining in any mlm. Lots of great ones but some are just in it for the fast buck. Sad thing is this falls on the backs of the reps.

As Art Williams says “Just do it, and do it, and do it”

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Peter Arnold July 12, 2010 at 2:45 pm Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1

Hi Lou:

Sadly, this is another example of the “dangers” of joining a START-UP company in our industry – another “black eye” for our profession.

And tragically, the primary VICTIMS in such failures are the REPS – many who have ‘worked their hearts out’ to build a future with that company – including some big names, as well as a few personal friends of mine.

Stats tell us that companies in our industry that are less than one (1) year old have survival rate of 10% — companies less than two (2) years old have a 30% survival rate — companies less than three (3) years old have a 50% survival rate — but, companies five (5) years or older have a survival rate of 75 -85%. Hmmm…

ANMP ( http://www.TheANMP.org ) – Having served on the Board Of Directors of our professional association (the Association of Network Marketing Professionals – formerly, the DRA), for almost 4-years, representing Canada – I can say without any hesitation – as you’ve alluded to – that the RISKS of joining a “shiny NEW company” are extremely high.

DUE DILLIGENCE – None of us has a “crystal ball” when it comes to EVALUATING a new Network Marketing company, of course – but there “are” certain Red Flags that we should all be aware of. And one of those (for me, at least) was what I had learned about the ownership of Liberty (I won’t go into the details here). Evaluating a new company is very diofficult for most people. They most often don’t know the ‘right questions’ to ask. and they simply don’t have access to the right sources of information. There are many, many critical factors to consider – and your outstanding Special Report – “MLM The Whole Truth” book cover many of these.

DAMAGE – Despite its magnificant ADVANTAGES (and their are “many”) – here’s a list of more than 50 companies in our industry — just a “tiny sampling” of some of the ‘carnage’ that has already taken place — companies that have been wounded and/or tarnished at one time or another (some still operating) — companies that have come and have since vanished, or ‘merged with’ other companies — companies that have sued and/or been sued — companies that have terminated Reps (because of harsh clauses in their P&Ps), etc, etc…

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SELF Branding – My own recommendation is to NOT make your MLM “be” your BUSINESS – because companies come and go. You’re leaving yourself wide open to possible abuse if you tie yourself to your MLM + you’re far too vulnerable if that becomes your “primary” source of income. Instead, your MLM should be only “one part” of your overall BUSINESS ENTERPRISE (= YOU. Inc.).

DIVERSIFICATION – Therefore, “positioning” yourself correctly is paramount – so that you have “multiple” revenue sources flowing. This can be accomplished with some good Affiliate (not MLM) programs, along with a (carefully selected) MLM at the back end.

Thank you for your excellent reporting on industry matters and updates.

Sincerely / Peter A.

Peter Arnold, CLU, CFC / Founder
Business Achievers Academy / Canada

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Dan July 12, 2010 at 2:15 pm Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

I almost joined Liberty International in 2007. I had this tug in my gut that it was not the right way for me. Thank you Intuition!!

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Michelle Tukachinsky July 12, 2010 at 1:41 pm Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0

Thanks for the post. Yes… joining a new venture is quite dangerous.. and most do not make it.

I was fortunate enough to get a refund of 700.00.. what I paid.. and many were not. I saw the writing on the wall months ago.

I am getting very skeptical about most home business based in MLM, unless it is a very established company.

I enjoy blogging and affiliate marketing. It seems to be the way to go nowadays. 🙂

Michelle

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